Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:38 pm
Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:16 pm
Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:CSK wrote:Having been born into a family of teachers, I can say that a lot of teens are really little monsters that never take into consideration the impact of their actions and words on their teachers. I've seen teachers cry over some of the stuff nasty students can do. That and they are horrendously underpaid for what to do, you wonder how they put up with us - yet they do. And we should forever be thankful for that.
What I think is ironic is people say "Teachers always think they are right" and students act exactly the same - they believe they are always right. A generalisation, I know, but it is reflected in the majority of teens.
They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:05 pm
Stijn wrote:Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:CSK wrote:Having been born into a family of teachers, I can say that a lot of teens are really little monsters that never take into consideration the impact of their actions and words on their teachers. I've seen teachers cry over some of the stuff nasty students can do. That and they are horrendously underpaid for what to do, you wonder how they put up with us - yet they do. And we should forever be thankful for that.
What I think is ironic is people say "Teachers always think they are right" and students act exactly the same - they believe they are always right. A generalisation, I know, but it is reflected in the majority of teens.
They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
True. But they CAN quit, even though it would put them in a not so nice financial position. Unless they really do not have an option, they should not complain.
Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:21 pm
Stijn wrote:Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:CSK wrote:Having been born into a family of teachers, I can say that a lot of teens are really little monsters that never take into consideration the impact of their actions and words on their teachers. I've seen teachers cry over some of the stuff nasty students can do. That and they are horrendously underpaid for what to do, you wonder how they put up with us - yet they do. And we should forever be thankful for that.
What I think is ironic is people say "Teachers always think they are right" and students act exactly the same - they believe they are always right. A generalisation, I know, but it is reflected in the majority of teens.
They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
True. But they CAN quit, even though it would put them in a not so nice financial position. Unless they really do not have an option, they should not complain.
Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:23 am
Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:CSK wrote:Having been born into a family of teachers, I can say that a lot of teens are really little monsters that never take into consideration the impact of their actions and words on their teachers. I've seen teachers cry over some of the stuff nasty students can do. That and they are horrendously underpaid for what to do, you wonder how they put up with us - yet they do. And we should forever be thankful for that.
What I think is ironic is people say "Teachers always think they are right" and students act exactly the same - they believe they are always right. A generalisation, I know, but it is reflected in the majority of teens.
They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
True. But they CAN quit, even though it would put them in a not so nice financial position. Unless they really do not have an option, they should not complain.
They can quit but who would want to be in a 'not so nice' financial position? I wouldn't. Most teachers have no other option, they can't afford to quit. And teachers have every right to complain as you do, they're human beings.
Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:56 am
Stijn wrote:Ammer wrote:Stijn wrote:CSK wrote:Having been born into a family of teachers, I can say that a lot of teens are really little monsters that never take into consideration the impact of their actions and words on their teachers. I've seen teachers cry over some of the stuff nasty students can do. That and they are horrendously underpaid for what to do, you wonder how they put up with us - yet they do. And we should forever be thankful for that.
What I think is ironic is people say "Teachers always think they are right" and students act exactly the same - they believe they are always right. A generalisation, I know, but it is reflected in the majority of teens.
They can always quit their job.
If they're raising a family or simply, trying to live by themselves, they can't. You can't just quit a job and expect a new one to jump right in front of you. Some teachers can't afford to quit their job.
True. But they CAN quit, even though it would put them in a not so nice financial position. Unless they really do not have an option, they should not complain.
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:56 am
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:54 pm
If that's the case - and that's happened to me a few times - then the students are not in the wrong. The teachers are. Parents shouldn't have to pay taxes for public school teachers that are unreasonable and unfair.Some teachers do say they are right (when they aren't) and students talk back in an attempt to "reason". It just sounds cheeky, and I could agree with that. Also, it's useless to try and reason with someone who isn't open to changing their mind.
Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:55 pm
Miss Padfoot wrote:If that's the case - and that's happened to me a few times - then the students are not in the wrong. The teachers are. Parents shouldn't have to pay taxes for public school teachers that are unreasonable and unfair.Some teachers do say they are right (when they aren't) and students talk back in an attempt to "reason". It just sounds cheeky, and I could agree with that. Also, it's useless to try and reason with someone who isn't open to changing their mind.
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:40 pm
Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:17 am
Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:41 pm
Skullsplitter wrote:She got fired though, and stabbed by one of the students.
Hmm.
Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:39 pm
Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:43 pm
Stijn wrote:I know teachers can't just "quit".
I wouldn't quit, if there isn't a better job available. But being underpaid does not justify their actions.