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Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:29 am

Setekh wrote:Course there was also the chance the atmosphere would ignite when the first Atom bomb was used.
Or that a wave of Anti-matter would sweep away all of existance every time we fire up a Particle acelerator.

We gotta do it, or we'll never know.


Haha. Stupid existance. That'll teach you.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:11 am

Eh, it's sort of strange, but why worry about the chance that we could all become nothing? If it were to happen, it'd be over so quickly, would anyone have any time to think "CRAP, that machine broke my existence!!!"? It's like a lot of things. You can not like it happening, but when it happens, you'll have no time to think otherwise, so it's pointless to worry about it.

Then again, there's the argument that if it DID destroy everything, then what would be the point of finding out if it did or not, if there's a possibility of no one ever finding the results? Part of science is to learn from experiments. If the experiment destroys us, it's partially ignoring the "learning" aspect of science, and thus pretty much wiping the countless years of work that makes science from existence. Sort of strange, that science can destroy itself, for it's own improvement, yet that improvement could mean the existence of science being lost forever. Then again, I suppose if you're going to gain such great knowledge like that, there has to be the possibility of losing something just as great.

Christopher wrote:Haha. Stupid existance. That'll teach you.


Man-Kind: 1
Existence: 0

Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:46 am

Kugetsu wrote:Eh, it's sort of strange, but why worry about the chance that we could all become nothing? If it were to happen, it'd be over so quickly, would anyone have any time to think "CRAP, that machine broke my existence!!!"? It's like a lot of things. You can not like it happening, but when it happens, you'll have no time to think otherwise, so it's pointless to worry about it.

Then again, there's the argument that if it DID destroy everything, then what would be the point of finding out if it did or not, if there's a possibility of no one ever finding the results? Part of science is to learn from experiments. If the experiment destroys us, it's partially ignoring the "learning" aspect of science, and thus pretty much wiping the countless years of work that makes science from existence. Sort of strange, that science can destroy itself, for it's own improvement, yet that improvement could mean the existence of science being lost forever. Then again, I suppose if you're going to gain such great knowledge like that, there has to be the possibility of losing something just as great.

Christopher wrote:Haha. Stupid existance. That'll teach you.


Man-Kind: 1
Existence: 0


In theory at SOL, so no, we wouldnt see a thing before being hit by an expanding mass of Anti... Universe. o_O

It's a far greater likely hood that it'll just go BOOOM Quite magnificently (And even that is of miniscule probablity) So it's a good job its in some backward place called... France?
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Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:14 am

DiscordantNote wrote:
Setekh wrote:We create them on a fairl regular basis as is, so I doubt theres much danger.
That, and we are fairly certain how they work (Really big gravity wells. That's about it)

Really? How? And do we know exactly how big the gravity well is? Can we predict how big it will be for sure?


Yes. Yes we can. With the same reliability as any other defined physics function.

Ooh, miniature black holes. Now we won't need landfills anymore.

Seriously though, that's interesting. I wouldn't want to do that on or near Earth though. :\


Fill a blackhole with stuff, and it'll just suck more up ^_^ you'd wanna keep em small if you were worrying about it eating things....

Dont hang me to this, but a black hole has to be of a certain size to even exist for more than a few seconds, so it wouldn't even do anything. It'd just be a reversable conversion of energy.

And yay for Setekh!!! Intolerance annoys me, you're the anti-intolerance.

Setekh : 3
Intolerance: 1,293,812,897,461

(yeah you're not exactly winning though, they're teaching ID in schools :P )

OOOh whoops, this isn't the debate topic! 8)

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:17 am

I'm suprised I'm upto 3 to be honest with you.
I am a bit of an intollerable git.

Still curious what I did to be named anti-intollerance mind. o_O

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:18 am

About three weeks ago they had that machine on Stargate Atlantis. They turnd it on and it promptly threatened to destroy the entire universe, as well as an alternate universe they were using it to draw exotic particles from (which just happened to send an alternate version of one of the characters).

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:20 am

Educated everyone on the fact that CERN n stuff wont kill everyone.

Thats why this thing isn't in america though, Bill Clinton got scared and said no.

TB, the chance of this killing us - (I apologise for the possible screen stretchy, but I wanted to illustrate a point)

10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
The probablity of a total existance failure

http://www.livescience.com/technology/10ways_destroyearth-10.html

200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

So like, what you guys are worried about is like, totally stupid because like, that can happen like any time like ever! so like we might just like, stop existing! like omgosh!

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:23 am

Thats was a big ZPM that drew its energy from a fully fledge reality rather than the pocket Universe that normal (Ickle) ones do right?


And that article was stolen from a far cooler man than that site ;)

http://qntm.org/destroy

He writes a cracking good SCi-fi too

Being a prime example.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:25 am

Setekh wrote:Thats was a big ZPM that drew its energy from a fully fledge reality rather than the pocket Universe that normal (Ickle) ones do right?


And that article was stolen from a far cooler man than that site ;)

http://qntm.org/destroy

He writes a cracking good SCi-fi too

Being a prime example.



I have totally no idea. ^_^

I'll read those linkies later, but now, Neighbours! *runs away*

Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:29 am

I think this is so awesome :) Who knows, maybe this all happened before and some scientist got to where we are in science and destroyed everything, and then the universe was re-created? Sweet.

Re: Theres no way it can possibly go wrong...

Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:59 pm

Setekh wrote:News cast..

Multi-dimensional physics may finally get the go ahead :D
But then...
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.


That is the scientists thought about the void on the last episode of Doctor Who 2005 Season 2 and the UKers who have seen that episode all know what happened there.
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Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:36 pm

zorg wrote:(yeah you're not exactly winning though, they're teaching ID in schools :P )


Well, we all know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is going to get them.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:26 pm

I really wouldn't mind if mankind was wiped out o_O Would it really be so bad?

Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:18 pm

Anoohilator wrote:I really wouldn't mind if mankind was wiped out o_O Would it really be so bad?


lol I'd have to go with yes. :P

Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:36 pm

Blehh...this reminds of DaVinci Code.
Anti-matter, the next form of energy (after nuclear...which vows to destroy the earth as well, but more slowly)

Well, come to think of it, didn't the article say they'll take 1 (or 2 decades) for the machine to generate 2 particles at amazing speed in order to clash them?

So from when they start up the thing, you have about...ohh, 1-20 years to live??

Anyway, how would we know if we don't exist if there's no one to account for that? (isn't it the same with the whole "if a tree falls down in a forest and nobody is there to hear it, will it make a sound"??)
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