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Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:11 pm

ahoteinrun wrote:
Morningstar wrote:
ahoteinrun wrote:They video taped his execution with a professional cinematographer apparently, and a guy took still photos.


I do not like the fact that I am being bombarded with these images anytime I go to MSN or a news channel. I don't want to see a picture of someone in the seconds before he dies. Because I know what happened to him in the few seconds after that. There is such a thing as respect for the dead. Even if the dead person is hated by so many. I know that I am OLD, but I remember a time when photographers did not ever photograph the dead. The first time I saw a photograph of a dead person was after the Mexico City earthquake in 1985. Time or Newsweek photographed the rubble and the picture showed a woman's hand, with bright red nailpolish, sticking out of the rubble. I know that they were doing it for shock value, but that picture STILL haunts me. I kept thinking, gosh, if I were dead, I wouldn't want people photographing me. Not even my hand. And I felt sorry for that poor woman. Who had her dignity stripped of her in that way. So, I have stopped going to MSN to check my hotmail simply because I cannot bear seeing this man's face right before he died. Some things are supposed to be private. And in this day and age, it seems like nothing is anymore. Go ahead, call me old-fashioned.


Don't hurt the messenger Morningstar, i'm only stating the fact off CNN from that first night. I myself have no interest in seeing the video. Images have always been taken or created of death and dying. I just believe they havn't always been shoved so eagerly into the publics face.


Yeah, I was just going to say...

There are photos of the bodies of victims of various historical 'atrocities' e.g. The Holocaust, dead bodies in Vietnam, that bloke getting shot in the head in Vietnam etc. Images of death are hardly new in themselves.

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:12 pm

It's unfortunate that such documentation is necessary for people to believe other people are dead. I understand the need but it still depresses me. The one that really bothers me (videowise) is the man in front of the tanks, the one they always show in history class. I know he didn't die, but...I can't explain why it bothers me.

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:29 pm

Moongewl wrote:It's unfortunate that such documentation is necessary for people to believe other people are dead. I understand the need but it still depresses me. The one that really bothers me (videowise) is the man in front of the tanks, the one they always show in history class. I know he didn't die, but...I can't explain why it bothers me.


The one in Tianamen square? I thought they didn't know what happened to that man... but I could be wrong.

Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:33 pm

I meant that the tanks didn't roll over him and keep going.

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:30 pm

ahoteinrun wrote:
Morningstar wrote:
ahoteinrun wrote:They video taped his execution with a professional cinematographer apparently, and a guy took still photos.


I do not like the fact that I am being bombarded with these images anytime I go to MSN or a news channel. I don't want to see a picture of someone in the seconds before he dies. Because I know what happened to him in the few seconds after that. There is such a thing as respect for the dead. Even if the dead person is hated by so many. I know that I am OLD, but I remember a time when photographers did not ever photograph the dead. The first time I saw a photograph of a dead person was after the Mexico City earthquake in 1985. Time or Newsweek photographed the rubble and the picture showed a woman's hand, with bright red nailpolish, sticking out of the rubble. I know that they were doing it for shock value, but that picture STILL haunts me. I kept thinking, gosh, if I were dead, I wouldn't want people photographing me. Not even my hand. And I felt sorry for that poor woman. Who had her dignity stripped of her in that way. So, I have stopped going to MSN to check my hotmail simply because I cannot bear seeing this man's face right before he died. Some things are supposed to be private. And in this day and age, it seems like nothing is anymore. Go ahead, call me old-fashioned.


Don't hurt the messenger Morningstar, i'm only stating the fact off CNN from that first night. I myself have no interest in seeing the video. Images have always been taken or created of death and dying. I just believe they havn't always been shoved so eagerly into the publics face.


Oh, hon, I'd never hurt you. I am just so darn frustrated with the media right now. The song "Dirty Laundry" by Don Henley keeps playing over in my head--you know the one about the bubble headed bleach blonde talking about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye. "Can we film the operation? Is the head dead yet? You know, the boys in the newsroom got a running bet. Get the widow on the set! We need dirty laundry." I can't even go to my hotmail account cause the final moments of this guy's life are right there front and center on the main MSN page. And I am not saying whether this was the right or the wrong thing to do, but just that someone needs to realize that some of us in this world are easily offended by this sort of stuff. *grumble* And we just had a former President die. Shouldn't the media be honoring him by putting up his picture instead? Almost like his funeral today got in the way.

Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:45 pm

I suppose the media now works upon the ideas that you can always change the channel or close a website so you can avoid the images. Frankly I havn't seen any of the images you have, but then I don't watch the news unless I absolutely have too, and I don't normally frequent sites with news.
The only thing on hotmail that bothers me now are the animal cruely photos with the sick and thin dogs and bears and such.
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