Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:20 pm
Dawn2 wrote:SpiraLethe wrote:Which reminds me, domesticated cats like to kill rodents and birds, if they're let out to roam. They don't usually eat them, either.
That's instinct. Humans don't instinctly go out and kill people or animals.
Which is totally incorrect. Humans are just animals. Animals kill each other and other species. Unless of course, you're denying that we're are actually animals.
Even if we have superior power over animals now. Instinct maybe be weakened, but it still exists.
A prime example is spur-of-the-moment self defense. That's primarily bought on by instinct. If an animal which was generally my size (not a dog or something) attacked me, if I had the means to do it, my first though would be to injury the animal then kill it, or kill it straight away.
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:56 pm
Dawn2 wrote:That's instinct. Humans don't instinctly go out and kill people or animals.
Humans don't instinctly farm, either.
Xerai also brought up some good points.
Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:17 pm
I eat meat and I would never even think of becoming vegetarian. First of all, I don't really care about eating animals, and second, I like meat so why would I give it up? Even if I don't buy the meat from the supermarket its still going to be put on the shelves at a constant rate each day because other people still buy it anyway. I've seen the 'meat locker' where I work and there is always a good bit of meat back there.
And I don't know who mentioned the thing about preaching just cause you're vegetarian, but that IS what you are doing, and it is different from non-vegetarians talking about meat, because meat eating is the normal thing, there isnt a whole lot of people that need to be talked into doing it now is there?
Oh, and I'd rather kill an animal than a human, heck...I've seen my friends shoot deer when they were hunting.
And I don't know who mentioned the thing about preaching just cause you're vegetarian, but that IS what you are doing, and it is different from non-vegetarians talking about meat, because meat eating is the normal thing, there isnt a whole lot of people that need to be talked into doing it now is there?
Oh, and I'd rather kill an animal than a human, heck...I've seen my friends shoot deer when they were hunting.
Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:19 am
No. I eat meat. And I like it.
Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:56 am
FrankieG wrote:And I don't know who mentioned the thing about preaching just cause you're vegetarian, but that IS what you are doing, and it is different from non-vegetarians talking about meat, because meat eating is the normal thing, there isnt a whole lot of people that need to be talked into doing it now is there?
Frankie. A year ago, if I said to someone (which I often did), "Hey, do you know what that jello is made of?" it would be just to gross them out and ruin their appetite. (And, fair enough, in some cases, to get the jello for myself.) Now, however, I could say the exact same thing but I'd be accused of trying to make that person become vegetarian, even if I just wanted to see if they'd continue to eat it. I don't care if someone chooses to eat meat. As I've already said, that's their decision. However, I dislike the fact that I can say the exact same thing as a meat-eater, and it can be taken so differently, even when I'm saying it for the same reason as the meat-eater is.
Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:04 pm
Didn't you once say something along the lines of 'ew, I don't eat corpses'?
Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Nope, I like my balanced diet.
Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:12 pm
Igg wrote:Didn't you once say something along the lines of 'ew, I don't eat corpses'?
To someone I was trying to get rid of? I would never say it to some random person or anything like that, only to people who know I'm not seriously criticizing their choice of eating choices. It was to a friend who I was annoyed with and trying to get to shut up.
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:00 am
No, and I have no problem with eating meat.
But there have been times when I have thought about not eating meat. Than something like my dad cooking tri-tip and the smell makes me SOOOOOOOOOO hungry. I hate the thought of never being able to eat a Medium Rare steak.... -drools- Or Baby Back ribs.
Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:16 pm
Cassi wrote:Igg wrote:Didn't you once say something along the lines of 'ew, I don't eat corpses'?
To someone I was trying to get rid of? I would never say it to some random person or anything like that, only to people who know I'm not seriously criticizing their choice of eating choices. It was to a friend who I was annoyed with and trying to get to shut up.
Still, you must be careful of the way you represent yourself
Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:27 pm
Cassi, just take comfort in the fact that if someone tells you that "you have such and such a problem because you don't eat meat" that they're preaching too.
Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:17 pm
Igg wrote:Still, you must be careful of the way you represent yourself
Point taken. =)
Kyra: fair enough, but the problem is, they don't see it as preaching, they see themselves as "normal".
((Sorry, that sounds like a really bad generalization, but I'm referring to people trying to make me eat meat, not all meat eaters.))
Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:28 pm
Kyra wrote:Cassi, just take comfort in the fact that if someone tells you that "you have such and such a problem because you don't eat meat" that they're preaching too.
Unless they're a doctor and you really do?
Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:59 pm
Igg wrote:Kyra wrote:Cassi, just take comfort in the fact that if someone tells you that "you have such and such a problem because you don't eat meat" that they're preaching too.
Unless they're a doctor and you really do?
Igg, shush, there are exceptions to everything. =P
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:18 pm
I love meat, so that's a definite no.