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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:30 am 
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I guess this would be the place to put this, though I'm not sure it will do any good....

Anyway.

It seems to me that writing pieces posted in the Gallery are more or less ignored. It my be out of sheer lack of interest in literature among PPTers, but my theory (and that of everyone I've talked to about it) is that literary pieces are lost among all the artwork posted in the Gallery. Thusly I propose a board similar to the gallery, but strictly for literature.

um...all those who agree post aye?


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I agree.
There should be a place for writers to go. And literature appreciators! :D


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I agree with the literature aspect, I seldom (in fact never) go to the Gallery because I was under the impression that it was all art in there, which I am not very interested in. I would however be interested in literature.

Making a new board for it though does not sound practical, since as you said, few people are interested in literature. IMO literature submissions should be merged with the library thread, since most literature lovers visit there rather than the gallery.


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I do not agree.
Considering the amount of responses that the writing pieces get... I do not feel that they warrant their own board. People will comment on what they want to comment on. I do not feel that changing their location will change the amount of comments or viewing that they recieve.
And considering the amount of them that there are... I do not feel that the board would could afford to be split without seriously compromising it.
It's the gallery.
It does not receive a lot of traffic, and I don't think that splitting it would be fair to the writing or to the other art that exists there.


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Qanda wrote:
Making a new board for it though does not sound practical, since as you said, few people are interested in literature.


I'm not sure whether it should have it's own board or not, but I would like to contest this comment. There are a lot of writers on PPT. One look on the role-play board could tell you that. Maybe there isn't the hoped for response in the Gallery because people don't know to look there for stories as well. *shrug* I do know it's definitely not for lack of people interested in writing on PPT.


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I agree with this idea! I love writing, with a writing board I'll write away!


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I agree with this idea! I love writing, with a writing board I'll write away!


We don't need a writing board.
You can write anyways and post it to the gallery.


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I don't really think we need a seperate board for writing. Writing is art, just like a painting is art, a photograph is art and a drawing in pencil is art. So we have one big art board to show all of them.
To tell you the truth, the reason I don't read a lot of the writing is because I'm lazy, not because I can't find it. :P


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AFI_Sorrow wrote:
I don't really think we need a seperate board for writing. Writing is art, just like a painting is art, a photograph is art and a drawing in pencil is art. So we have one big art board to show all of them.
To tell you the truth, the reason I don't read a lot of the writing is because I'm lazy, not because I can't find it. :P


That's true. It does take a lot more time and patience to look at a lot of text, than a simple picture. That could be one reason the writing pieces aren't posted in as much.


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Making a new board doesn't automatically mean people will use it. The activity involving written stories on this forum is minimal, at best. (sans roleplay).

Yknow the old saying? "Kill two birds with one stone" it works here, since the gallery functions as a board for any artistic medium.


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Qanda wrote:
I agree with the literature aspect, I seldom (in fact never) go to the Gallery because I was under the impression that it was all art in there, which I am not very interested in. I would however be interested in literature.

Making a new board for it though does not sound practical, since as you said, few people are interested in literature. IMO literature submissions should be merged with the library thread, since most literature lovers visit there rather than the gallery.


I do like that idea, moving the writing peices to the Library.


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sir_michael wrote:
Qanda wrote:
I agree with the literature aspect, I seldom (in fact never) go to the Gallery because I was under the impression that it was all art in there, which I am not very interested in. I would however be interested in literature.

Making a new board for it though does not sound practical, since as you said, few people are interested in literature. IMO literature submissions should be merged with the library thread, since most literature lovers visit there rather than the gallery.


I do like that idea, moving the writing peices to the Library.

The library is for discussion of written published work.
There is frankly no need to have anything moved from the gallery to the library. It would clutter and confuse the library, and make a mess of it.


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AFI_Sorrow wrote:
I don't really think we need a seperate board for writing. Writing is art, just like a painting is art, a photograph is art and a drawing in pencil is art. So we have one big art board to show all of them.
To tell you the truth, the reason I don't read a lot of the writing is because I'm lazy, not because I can't find it. :P


That's true. It does take a lot more time and patience to look at a lot of text, than a simple picture. That could be one reason the writing pieces aren't posted in as much.


That's exactly why I propose the new board. At least here's the way I see it.

Posting int he Gallery(the way I see it)

ARTWORK

Step 1: look at it
Step 2: Ooh, pretty! I really like -blank-
(seriously. Look at the majority of artwork posts.)

WRITING

Step 1: Read it. Yes. All of it
Step 2: Actually have to think about it in order to post something.

Same amount of steps, but one actually requires effort.

When it's so easy to flood artwork with meaningless posts, writing is buried at the bottom of the board before you can blink.

That's where the new board would come in.

If writers had a place where they could post their work and it wouldn't get swamped and buried by artwork, they could actually get meaningful evaluation and comments by people who are willing to read what they put hard work into creating.

To Sum it up...

Authors deserve just as much credit and appreciation for their work as artists do. Writing is just another form of art. If Artists can have their work appreciated by other artists in the gallery, I think it's only fair that authors have a board where they can do so too without fear of being drowned by lazy comments on art.


I personally am no longer posting any of my works in the Gallery, art or otherwise. It's not fair.


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If you look at sites like deviantart, the users place all sorts of different art pieces into their portfolios (which includes things like writing along with photos and desktop images and flash movies) They don't restrict what can or cannot be put on one part of a site versus another, it's all good as it is. Why should we be that strict? :)


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.:Requiem:. wrote:
Posting int he Gallery(the way I see it)

ARTWORK

Step 1: look at it
Step 2: Ooh, pretty! I really like -blank-
(seriously. Look at the majority of artwork posts.)


I find this seriously offensive. Not to myself but to everyone who posts in the gallery. When you come into a place like PPT, you have to understand that not everyone is a professional artist. Sometimes people just want to say "it's nice" or "thats pretty" or "you're great". Not everyone knows how to give a critique nor does everyone WANT to give a critique.

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WRITING

Step 1: Read it. Yes. All of it
Step 2: Actually have to think about it in order to post something.

Same amount of steps, but one actually requires effort.


If you look at the written work posted in the gallery, you'll see just about the same type of comments for the written work... that you will for the majority of the artwork.

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When it's so easy to flood artwork with meaningless posts, writing is buried at the bottom of the board before you can blink.

The art gallery is hardly being 'flooded'. The fact of the matter is, is that people will comment on what they want to comment on. Do you honestly think demographics will change the amount of posts on written work? Because I don't. People will comment on what they want to comment on. If you want comments, advertise your work to your friends. Put it in your sig in a link. As well, I see very few meaningless posts in the art gallery, and if you see any, be feel to point them out to me, and i'll be more then happy to take action.

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That's where the new board would come in.

If writers had a place where they could post their work and it wouldn't get swamped and buried by artwork, they could actually get meaningful evaluation and comments by people who are willing to read what they put hard work into creating.


Again. Demographics will probably not change anything. Written work goes in the gallery. If you pay attention to PPTAC (PPTMAC), you will have noticed that written work has been doing quite well recently.
If you want meaningful criticism on your work, I suggest you start doing two things. EVERYONE here who has posted saying they want a new board, prove that it's deserved. Start commenting on the work thats in the gallery. Keep the written word at the top. Frankly, I don't see that being done right now. And don't say that "it's all pushed to the bottom". The gallery does not get that much traffic. Everyone here who says PPT needs a writing board, prove it. Start posting more written material, start commenting on the work thats there, and then maybe if theres a big enough push for it, maybe it can be brought up again.


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To Sum it up...

Authors deserve just as much credit and appreciation for their work as artists do. Writing is just another form of art. If Artists can have their work appreciated by other artists in the gallery, I think it's only fair that authors have a board where they can do so too without fear of being drowned by lazy comments on art.


No one says that writing isn't appreciated on the forums. Writers are free to comment on other writers works. I've never seen a post or a rule that says "Writers cannot comment on work, or authors cannot recieve comments". And really, do you need to say "lazy" comments. As i've already pointed out, many people do not know how to critique art, and I really feel it's not fair to hold that against them.

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I personally am no longer posting any of my works in the Gallery, art or otherwise. It's not fair.


Thats your choice. If you don't post, so be it.


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