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The cold hard truth or insincere praise?

Cold hard truth
21
70%
Insincere praise
4
13%
Silence
5
17%
 
Total votes : 30

Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:29 pm

I'd comment on positive points, then negative points, or just run away.

Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:30 pm

I'm brutally honest whenever asked a question, and I wouldn't expect anyone to act any differently to me.

Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:23 pm

I would start by telling them what was nice about it, then go on to tell them how they could improve.

But if it was a piece of crap? I'd tell them so they wouldn't end up embarresing themselves.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:17 am

People often show me graphics they've made and ask me to critique. If it looks bad, I'm not going to lie and say it's beautiful. I'll tell them what they can change, and also give instructions on how to do certain things (especially if the person is new to graphic making).
I can be harsh sometimes, but I try to give at least some compliment, and I try to help them improve it.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:38 am

I usually compliment then show possible aspects of improvement.

If there's really nothing to compliment but there's hope for the piece of art, I go for the cold hard truth. If there's honestly nothing good about it, I stay silent.

Then again, I don't often go to critique art.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:45 am

Usually if I don't like something, I won't comment. If I have to critique, I usually blubber it up with compliments then say "But..."

Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:27 am

I myself act and I prefer the cold hard truth. When I act I want to know when I'm bad and when I'm good! And I HATE it when people don't take your critisism and start getting all defencive.
"No I was so much better than you!" or
"That's not what my *insert Family member/Friend here* said!"
... Enough said I think...

Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:29 am

It doesn't have to be art. It can be an essay, someone's photo (see PPT Picture Topic), or even your girlfriend's cooking.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:53 am

Judging from the way people in here reply in the art submission forum, either you all don't post there, or you're lying.

I am a firm advocate of constructive criticism. If I really don't like something, I try to figure out a practical reason why, and explain it, while compounding on things I DID like about the piece. Because not all anything can be bad.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:11 pm

When I critique something for someone, I tell the truth. I don't see wy anyone would lie to them if it's really not that good. I would also expect people to tell me the truth when they critique something of mine, and I know that the ones I ask do.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:18 pm

Qanda wrote:It doesn't have to be art. It can be an essay, someone's photo (see PPT Picture Topic), or even your girlfriend's cooking.


It's just rude to critique someone's photo of themselves unless you're doing it to judge how the picture itself was taken, not the person in it. :roll:

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:19 pm

How about blending good with bad in a comment? I do that for doing feedback in adjudicating debates...

As for art, I would say how much I like it out of my heart, then say what can be made as a suggestion. I tend to not go too harsh on criticism and if I know I'm going to that, I keep my mouth shut before I spill.

Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:55 pm

Istanbullfrog wrote:Judging from the way people in here reply in the art submission forum, either you all don't post there, or you're lying.

I am a firm advocate of constructive criticism. If I really don't like something, I try to figure out a practical reason why, and explain it, while compounding on things I DID like about the piece. Because not all anything can be bad.


*gives you a cookie*

I agree with Istanbullfrog.
Pretty much strait out completely agree. With everything she's said.

And on a personal level, I don't offer up many full blown crits on PPT, especially right now due to time. I've done one... in the past few months, and it took me about 45 minutes to do because when I do something like that, I do it seriously. And I ask first. Which is basically a warning that the artist is going to get their work blown up and every flaw I can see, pointed out.
But when I do it, I also point out good. You can't just rip into someones artwork. It's not like i'm mean (well I am, but thats not the point), it's just that every single person who posts in the gallery gets comments like "OMG You're so great!" "You're the best artist ever!" and i'm tired of seeing those. So more crits are going to be popping up now that i've got time to write them. Guide to Proper Critique
I think i've frightened a lot of people away from posting crits in the gallery though... for fear of themselves getting in trouble.
You won't get into trouble so long as you're not being mean about what you say.

Anywho.

And it occurs to me, I need to update my critique tutorial... *will get on that later*

Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:15 pm

If you don't have to mention it, don't. that way, everyone wins!

Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:58 am

Dawn2 wrote:
Qanda wrote:It doesn't have to be art. It can be an essay, someone's photo (see PPT Picture Topic), or even your girlfriend's cooking.


It's just rude to critique someone's photo of themselves unless you're doing it to judge how the picture itself was taken, not the person in it. :roll:


YEAH, that's one type of criticism that can be left to yourself. Criticizing somebody's LOOKS (unless it's a 'what should I do with my hair' type thing) is just inappropriate.
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