Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:23 am
The internet, breeding place for lies and weirdos.
Don't believe everything you see on the net kiddies. Though some of the "amazing" co-incidences are true, most are just plain wrong or trivial. It probably started off pretty much accurate, but all it takes is one person to copy it to their website and add a few other ones they "heard from a friend of a friend" to make their site look better to destroy the whole thing, the more people that copy and change, the less accurate it was.
And thus, you get sites claiming Mother Theresa was an alien if you look at such and such and this and that etc etc etc
Don't believe everything you see on the net kiddies. Though some of the "amazing" co-incidences are true, most are just plain wrong or trivial. It probably started off pretty much accurate, but all it takes is one person to copy it to their website and add a few other ones they "heard from a friend of a friend" to make their site look better to destroy the whole thing, the more people that copy and change, the less accurate it was.
And thus, you get sites claiming Mother Theresa was an alien if you look at such and such and this and that etc etc etc
Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:33 pm
Not really, there are 18 facts (and pairs of facts) there and Snopes has 14 of them being true. 14 of those coincidences are pretty interesting and make for good reading. And I think it was fairly obvious that in it's original form the bottom "fact" was added for humour.
In fact I've never seen a Snopes article before that admits some parts are true and goes for the "but that's unsurprising..etc" route. Like I said earlier it's when they are all added together that it looks a bit spooky.
It's a cool read
In fact I've never seen a Snopes article before that admits some parts are true and goes for the "but that's unsurprising..etc" route. Like I said earlier it's when they are all added together that it looks a bit spooky.
It's a cool read
Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:48 pm
I count lying as not telling the truth 
And quiote a few of the co-incidences neglect to tell the full truth.
And quiote a few of the co-incidences neglect to tell the full truth.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:01 pm
They may not go into great detail but the facts themselves are essentially true
Anyway it's all just a bit of fun
..presumably not for the presidents though.
Anyway it's all just a bit of fun
..presumably not for the presidents though.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:14 pm
Fine then...breeding place for bent or misleading truths and facts, weirdos and pedantic forumers...
Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:56 pm
the_dog_god wrote:Fine then...breeding place for bent or misleading truths and facts, weirdos and pedantic forumers...
Speak for yourself....
Anyway I liked it (before all the pedantry) and a lot of people I know got a good laugh from it. I'm guessing I am allowed to enjoy it for the fun it is supposed to be
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:21 pm
Trick wrote:Anyway I liked it (before all the pedantry) and a lot of people I know got a good laugh from it. I'm guessing I am allowed to enjoy it for the fun it is supposed to be
Not that that's really an agree/disagree thing, but I agree. Even if it is somewhat fake, its fun to read, and since at least some is real, it makes it spooky in a fun interesting way. No ammount of prooving or disprooving will really make it not interesting.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:44 pm
Trick wrote:(*Dranzer*) wrote:Its 1/7.
Pick any day.
That day has 1 out of 7 chances to be picked again.
Each day has a 1/7 chance.
7/49= 1/7.
You only calculate probabilities like this if you're saying "what is the probability that one president or the other dies on a Friday" not "what is the probability that both presidents die on a Friday".
An addition of probabilities like that is an AND calculation, so you use multiplication... 1\7 * 1\7 = 1\49 like LaceyJade said.
...good grief, I remembered maths :0
The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:12 pm
M. Bison wrote:The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
Wouldn't that be the probability that a second president dies on a Friday, rather than the probability that two die on a Friday? I was under the impression it was the same as working the probability of rolling two sixes. Or would that be if it was the same Friday....meh, don't look at me, I hated stats
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:27 pm
Trick wrote:M. Bison wrote:The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
Wouldn't that be the probability that a second president dies on a Friday, rather than the probability that two die on a Friday? I was under the impression it was the same as working the probability of rolling two sixes. Or would that be if it was the same Friday....meh, don't look at me, I hated stats
The day Lincoln died could be any day, as there was no "prerequisite". Therefore 7 of the 7 days would work. Then Kennedy would have to die on the one day of the 7 that Lincoln died, no matter what the day was. 7/7 * 1/7 = 7/49 = 1/7.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:29 pm
M. Bison wrote:Trick wrote:(*Dranzer*) wrote:Its 1/7.
Pick any day.
That day has 1 out of 7 chances to be picked again.
Each day has a 1/7 chance.
7/49= 1/7.
You only calculate probabilities like this if you're saying "what is the probability that one president or the other dies on a Friday" not "what is the probability that both presidents die on a Friday".
An addition of probabilities like that is an AND calculation, so you use multiplication... 1\7 * 1\7 = 1\49 like LaceyJade said.
The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
No, because Lincoln had to die on the same day Kennedy died, too. Since there are 7 days in the week, and Lincoln died on one of them. So you get 1/7 from there. The probability of Kennedy dying on ANY day is also 1/7. If you multiply them together, you get 1/49, which is the probability of both dying on the same day.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:31 pm
LaceyJade wrote:M. Bison wrote:Trick wrote:(*Dranzer*) wrote:Its 1/7.
Pick any day.
That day has 1 out of 7 chances to be picked again.
Each day has a 1/7 chance.
7/49= 1/7.
You only calculate probabilities like this if you're saying "what is the probability that one president or the other dies on a Friday" not "what is the probability that both presidents die on a Friday".
An addition of probabilities like that is an AND calculation, so you use multiplication... 1\7 * 1\7 = 1\49 like LaceyJade said.
The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
No, because Lincoln had to die on the same day Kennedy died, too. Since there are 7 days in the week, and Lincoln died on one of them. So you get 1/7 from there. The probability of Kennedy dying on ANY day is also 1/7. If you multiply them together, you get 1/49, which is the probability of both dying on the same day.
But Lincoln could have died on any day, as he did not need to fulfill a requirement set before him, like Kennedy did. o.o
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:33 pm
o_0 wrote:LaceyJade wrote:M. Bison wrote:Trick wrote:(*Dranzer*) wrote:Its 1/7.
Pick any day.
That day has 1 out of 7 chances to be picked again.
Each day has a 1/7 chance.
7/49= 1/7.
You only calculate probabilities like this if you're saying "what is the probability that one president or the other dies on a Friday" not "what is the probability that both presidents die on a Friday".
An addition of probabilities like that is an AND calculation, so you use multiplication... 1\7 * 1\7 = 1\49 like LaceyJade said.
The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
No, because Lincoln had to die on the same day Kennedy died, too. Since there are 7 days in the week, and Lincoln died on one of them. So you get 1/7 from there. The probability of Kennedy dying on ANY day is also 1/7. If you multiply them together, you get 1/49, which is the probability of both dying on the same day.
But Lincoln could have died on any day, as he did not need to fulfill a requirement set before him, like Kennedy did. o.o
If Kennedy had to die on the same day Lincoln did, then Lincoln had to have died on the same day Kennedy did, no? AB = BA.
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:51 pm
*reads frantic conspiracists*
Tis the Nazi Lizardmen who live at the centre of the earth making deals with the Illuminati to destroy the Stonecutters i tells ya!
Tis the Nazi Lizardmen who live at the centre of the earth making deals with the Illuminati to destroy the Stonecutters i tells ya!
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:07 pm
LaceyJade wrote:o_0 wrote:LaceyJade wrote:M. Bison wrote:Trick wrote:(*Dranzer*) wrote:Its 1/7.
Pick any day.
That day has 1 out of 7 chances to be picked again.
Each day has a 1/7 chance.
7/49= 1/7.
You only calculate probabilities like this if you're saying "what is the probability that one president or the other dies on a Friday" not "what is the probability that both presidents die on a Friday".
An addition of probabilities like that is an AND calculation, so you use multiplication... 1\7 * 1\7 = 1\49 like LaceyJade said.
The chance of two people dying on the same day is 1/7. There is no probability involving the day of Lincoln's death, as it does not matter. To fulfill the condition, Kennedy has to die the same day Lincoln did. And he had a 1/7 chance of doing so.
No, because Lincoln had to die on the same day Kennedy died, too. Since there are 7 days in the week, and Lincoln died on one of them. So you get 1/7 from there. The probability of Kennedy dying on ANY day is also 1/7. If you multiply them together, you get 1/49, which is the probability of both dying on the same day.
But Lincoln could have died on any day, as he did not need to fulfill a requirement set before him, like Kennedy did. o.o
If Kennedy had to die on the same day Lincoln did, then Lincoln had to have died on the same day Kennedy did, no? AB = BA.
Okay, let's explain it simply.
Lincoln died on, what? A Friday? Let's say so.
So Kennedy could have died on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. The odds of him dying on the same day as Lincoln are 1/7. If Lincoln died on a Tuesday, a Thursday, or a Saturday, it wouldn't matter - the odds would still be the same. Have you done probability yet in math class?