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It's the school's fault.

Heck, I can't even access the forums because the URL contains the word "forum". It's not that hard, and if they can't set up the system themselves, they can hire someone to do it for them.


And knowing school kids I can think of about a dozen ways to bypass the inadequate filters schools tend to use.
Heck, you could bypass the one at my school by routing it through Google (Some... 8 years ago or so) and by using the IP address at College (Until last year...) at Which point I just routed it through a Proxy Ip.
Easy really, so Filters won't do diddly.


They do do diddly. They are a deterrent. It stops someone from accessing the filtered content on a whim - you have to really want to do it!


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Wouldn't bypassing the filters make the students liable, though? "You broke the rules, and you weren't doing it accidentally."


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That's just screwed up.


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Wouldn't bypassing the filters make the students liable, though? "You broke the rules, and you weren't doing it accidentally."


Yeah, I would think so.

It's usually stated in computer-use TOS at colleges and probably most schools (at least in the US), and if not, then I'm not quite sure how they would handle that (I know to use computers in our high school, and grade schools, at my community library and at my community college, documents had to be signed agreeing not do certain things on the computers (filter bypassing was one of them, although Google didn't help with this).

Obviously, if you broke that agreement, you'd be liable, as you would obviously be trying to do the action in question.) Probably depends on age, though I still think if it was done on purpose, the school or location in question shouldn't be liable.


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Obviously, if you broke that agreement, you'd be liable, as you would obviously be trying to do the action in question.) Probably depends on age, though I still think if it was done on purpose, the school or location in question shouldn't be liable.



What should be and what is rarely go together unfortunately.
Although I imagine any decent school would put a liability clause in the agreement, which is probably why my College didn't.


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The 40 years thing sounds extremely excessive, but it's 4 counts of a 10-year-max charge- I'm assuming it could've been far more than 4 counts had more parents complained. But frankly I'd like to keep such a charge at 10 years. It's just once you stack up the charges, it makes for a sensationalist headline.

That being said, this case is pretty ridiculous. I'm guessing that after the law absolves her, she'll be compensated for all the trouble the school put her through. That would be in an ideal world, though...


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I'm guessing that after the law absolves her, she'll be compensated for all the trouble the school put her through. That would be in an ideal world, though...


Oh please no.
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Oh my god.. Thats unbelievable.. This is so stupid :(
I mean.. yeah, I can understand some people won't believe all the story and think she's guilty and blah blah.. but 40 years? That's just ridiculous.


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