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I think the fact that the entire world is taken by a distinct sense of apathy would say that yes. you are.

No one cares, face it, we will suck this world dry and wipe out its indigenous life one by one until we are alone.
then, we'll go for the stars too.


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Setekh wrote:
I think the fact that the entire world is taken by a distinct sense of apathy would say that yes. you are.

No one cares, face it, we will suck this world dry and wipe out its indigenous life one by one until we are alone.
then, we'll go for the stars too.


For a start, are you the entire world? No. People do care. You can't ignore all the media attention global warming has had recently and it's in the UK nation's concience at least. Unless you've been hiding under a rock recently anyhow.

People do care but I guess some people are just too lazy to do their bit sometimes. To me, it's not hard to walk 10 minutes down the road to go to the shop instead of jumping in the car all the time. But I guess I'm not that lazy.


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For a start, are you the entire world? No. People do care. You can't ignore all the media attention global warming has had recently and it's in the UK nation's concience at least. Unless you've been hiding under a rock recently anyhow.

People do care but I guess some people are just too lazy to do their bit sometimes. To me, it's not hard to walk 10 minutes down the road to go to the shop instead of jumping in the car all the time. But I guess I'm not that lazy.


See, media attention equals not actual caring.
Without opening that can of worms again, I can guarantee you go out and you look at how many people actually care.
Go on, take a look.
Done?
Good.

Now, my no news policy aside, I honestly doubt people care, and no, going round the shop isn't caring, it's saving money.
Walking into town because your too lazy to wait five minutes for a bus isn't caring either, it's just my unique brand of laziness.


Edit: Oh yes, global warming: Scare mongering.
Any money who has looked at global temperature reports can tell you that.


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Oh here we go again. Yeah, yeah media = bad.

But from my perspective of the real world and actual people, they do care. My friends started up a huge recycling campaign in school and turned the whole school "green". They convinced the head to buy bins for outside so people were allowed to eat out there, got the council to provide us with recycling bins and organised recycling prefects. And this was two seventeen year old girls in one school. Now we've left, the school is carrying on with the green campaign and it has now opened up to the entire borough. It may not do much but it's better than nothing.

So if you can't give me any examples of how 'no-one actually cares', I'll regard your so called facts as null and void.


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Twinkle wrote:
Oh here we go again. Yeah, yeah media = bad.

But from my perspective of the real world and actual people, they do care. My friends started up a huge recycling campaign in school and turned the whole school "green". They convinced the head to buy bins for outside so people were allowed to eat out there, got the council to provide us with recycling bins and organised recycling prefects. And this was two seventeen year old girls in one school. Now we've left, the school is carrying on with the green campaign and it has now opened up to the entire borough. It may not do much but it's better than nothing.

So if you can't give me any examples of how 'no-one actually cares', I'll regard your so called facts as null and void.


With that aswell the schools of my country are all turning greener using some of the same initatives Twinkle mentioned. The university at which I am studying is also attempting to give us a strong enviromental ethos and is also attempting to be 'greener'. Back home in Wales my family recycles papers, glass, tins and cans, cardboard etc. As do all people in my county.

The reality is that people are becoming more enviromentally friendly and more people are awakening to their responsibilities.


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Twinkle wrote:
So if you can't give me any examples of how 'no-one actually cares', I'll regard your so called facts as null and void.


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You know what, I have a small essay of crap that exemplifies my point but to be honest with you, Arguing with you seems a bit pointless at this moment.
your mind is made up and it is filled with happy smiles, pink flowers and Panda's that aren't going extinct because they go well with rice.

So null and void it all you want, I'm having a freakin' ball sitting here and watching.


Edit: The general consensus of my poll?
Exploit the furry fellows.


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Twinkle wrote:
So if you can't give me any examples of how 'no-one actually cares', I'll regard your so called facts as null and void.


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You know what, I have a small essay of crap that exemplifies my point but to be honest with you, Arguing with you seems a bit pointless at this moment.
your mind is made up and it is filled with happy smiles, pink flowers and Panda's that aren't going extinct because they go well with rice.

So null and void it all you want, I'm having a freakin' ball sitting here and watching.


Edit: The general consensus of my poll?
Exploit the furry fellows.


Your point is null and void. You say no-one cares. I've just shown you how people do actually care. Therefore, null and void.

I'm going to give up on this because obvously the entire world is hard and bad and everyone in it couldn't care less about anyone but themselves. I just do not appreciate being called no-one. :roll:


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You cite one school.

Know what? I went to, ohhhh... Five of them, not one of them is doing it.
Ergo, through 5 - 1 odds I win.

And yes, some people do care.
But you are -to be frank and I imagine about to get even more unpopular for not sugar coating it- Weird.
Much like my mother, bless her, you care about others.
Unfortunetly for you, the rest of us don't, we care about ourselves and those close to us and the rest of the world can burn for all it matters.

But still. Freakin' ball.


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But back on topic - Kym, those are great suggestions - I'll certainly give them a go.

Off topic - perhaps the debating boards would be more suited to the environment talk. Please join by using the Usergroups link at the top of the page. :)


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