Tom and Jerry being CENSORED

The big screen and the small screen... together at last! Hurrah!

Moderator: Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
Combusken BG
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 3989
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 2:05 pm
Favorite Cheese: Brie de Meaux, Red Leicester and Wensleydale.
Location: The UK: Set by Laq.

Tom and Jerry being CENSORED

#1 Post by Combusken BG »

Source: http://www.nbc10.com/entertainment/9717462/detail.html

A British television channel is kicking the butts out of some Hanna-Barbera cartoons, including "The Flintstones," "Scooby-Doo" and "Tom and Jerry."

It's all because one viewer complained about smoking in two Tom and Jerry toons.

In one of them, Tom tries to impress a female cat by rolling and smoking a cigarette with one paw.

In another, a character is seen smoking a cigar. Those two scenes have now been edited out.

The children's Boomerang channel said it'll look at its entire library of cartoons and take out all other scenes glamorizing smoking.

Britain's television regulator said that's a good idea. But a pro-smoking group called the move "totally absurd."


This, to me, is stupid. Tom and Jerry are over 50 years old, and no other thing like this has been done in the past. What's next?
Image
Igg
Honorary Member
Honorary Member
Posts: 6288
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:47 pm

#2 Post by Igg »

It's a fair point, I guess.

The 'glamorous' smoking in Tom and Jerry tends to be pastiche of the glossy Hollywood films in the 50's (ish) where all these beautiful, glamorous women would never be seen without a cigaraette (and similar with the men).

It wasn't an issue for kids when Tom and Jerry was made, because everyone smoked. It's an issue now because smoking is something people definitely don't want to promote or give a positive image. e.g. Tom impressing a female by smoking.

I don't actually think cartoons are going to make people want to take up smoking- I don't, and I watched loads of Tom and Jerry cartoons when I was little. But I can see their point and it's hardly going to affect the plot.
Image
Image
o_0
Beyond Godly
Beyond Godly
Posts: 4855
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:58 pm
Location: In my room listening to Hardcore Metal Christian music.

#3 Post by o_0 »

I say take away anything involving violence, including but not limited to frying pan hits, eating live parakeets, and dropping anvils.
Igg
Honorary Member
Honorary Member
Posts: 6288
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:47 pm

#4 Post by Igg »

o_0 wrote:I say take away anything involving violence, including but not limited to frying pan hits, eating live parakeets, and dropping anvils.


The number of murders in the world carried out via Frying pans or anvil-dropping... I doubt they're all that big :P
Image
Image
werepup
Honorary Member
Honorary Member
Posts: 1160
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:18 am
Location: Wishing I was somewhere else
Contact:

#5 Post by werepup »

I read it in the BBC. Although I'm shocked at the artform being cut, I'm also relieved for the kids that watch it. Smoking is not cool in my book.
Image
Skynetmain
Honorary Member
Honorary Member
Posts: 5276
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:45 pm
Location: Los Osos, CA, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy
Contact:

Re: Tom and Jerry being CENSORED

#6 Post by Skynetmain »

Combusken BG wrote:This, to me, is stupid. Tom and Jerry are over 50 years old, and no other thing like this has been done in the past. What's next?


Yeah. You think cutting out smoking is bad for British television is bad, wait until you hear this tale of horror from the States.

There are some Bugs Bunny cartoons that will never see the light of day ever again. They are, let's say, 61-65 years old as of, let's also say, this last week. We can then say they were made for the kids at home during the war. What they feature is Bugs Bunny brutally killing Japanese soldiers while spewing non-stop racial slurs. There is a good reason why that one is gone forever.

Others that are on the censor's table, with good reason, include ones where a character gets a 'mud baby' image, meaning covered in mud or tar with protruding lips. It was meant as a slur against those of African descent, but thankfully civil rights groups helped get rid of them.

Censoring materials that groups have found offensive is common and something that has to be accepted in this 'PC' world, although this case is a little out there since the parents should be the ones teaching the kids that smoking is evil from day one.
Image
Set by Cukupan
Ohayo Nippon every Sunday at LW
I *heart* R
I'm on a boat like a boss
Asthaloth
Beyond Godly
Beyond Godly
Posts: 4284
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:48 am

#7 Post by Asthaloth »

Igg wrote:
o_0 wrote:I say take away anything involving violence, including but not limited to frying pan hits, eating live parakeets, and dropping anvils.


The number of murders in the world carried out via Frying pans or anvil-dropping... I doubt they're all that big :P


I imagine there are enough cases of domestic violence involving frying pans to warrant their removal.
Afterall it only took one idiot complaint.
Pantaliamon
PPT Student
PPT Student
Posts: 289
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:38 am
Location: United States

#8 Post by Pantaliamon »

Oh, good, good; I started smoking at the age of six, and I still am, because I saw it in Tom and Jerry!

:roll:
Christopher
Way Beyond Godly
Way Beyond Godly
Posts: 8491
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 6:44 am
Location: New Zealand Weapon: HaaH Sword Species: Human Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

#9 Post by Christopher »

Doctoring past items in order to comply with current values in England sounds like 1984.
iluvdoggyz666
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 15
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:52 am
Location: THE USA!!!! i luv it soooooo much
Contact:

#10 Post by iluvdoggyz666 »

itz about time imp it was NOT a good insperation 4 kidz i hate it
LUV YA!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Jens
PPT God
PPT God
Posts: 1765
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:41 pm
Location: Belgium
Contact:

#11 Post by Jens »

Pantaliamon wrote:Oh, good, good; I started smoking at the age of six, and I still am, because I saw it in Tom and Jerry!

:roll:


Because of your location (US) I'm going to believe you on this one.
Image
Drake Redcrest
PPT Warrior
PPT Warrior
Posts: 912
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 6:22 am

#12 Post by Drake Redcrest »

Yes, of course. I've been smoking since I was two, all because I saw it on tv. I mean, the world just works that way, doesn't it? Parents couldn't be expected to actually parent their children. Why, that would just be logical!
Image
o_0
Beyond Godly
Beyond Godly
Posts: 4855
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:58 pm
Location: In my room listening to Hardcore Metal Christian music.

#13 Post by o_0 »

Christopher wrote:Doctoring past items in order to comply with current values in England sounds like 1984.


QUIET. *feeds you to the rats*
Jasujo
Honorary Member
Honorary Member
Posts: 7445
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 9:10 am
Location: Frankfort, NY USA (set by Nikita)
Contact:

#14 Post by Jasujo »

lol "Issues" like this always make me laugh. I think it's a bit absurd when something that old is censored. Why not go to an art gallery and cover up all the nudey pics? Why not pop into a history book and take out anything "unsuitable" for younger people to read? It's all ridiculous. If you teach your child correctly, they are not going to be foolish enough to do something just because a cartoon character does it. They should know cartoons are false and tools to fuel the imagination and get a good laugh for entertainment. I never understand the arguments "if my child sees someone smoking on tv, then they will smoke" or any of the other arguments. If a child does something because they see a character do it, they need to be taught the difference between fantasy and reality. Children need to be given more credit and not treated in a dumbed-down, no self-responsibility attitude that a lot of PC parents have today.

My girls absolutely love Tom & Jerry and they are neither more violent or smoke. lol It's a shame that they can't watch a lot of the old cartoons like Looney Tunes or the Hanna Barbara shows because they are either on a special pay-extra channel or simply not shown anymore. Classics like that should be available somewhere or the new generations will never get to know them. :(
xxShannon
PPT Baby
PPT Baby
Posts: 70
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:12 am
Location: Michigan, USA

#15 Post by xxShannon »


There are some Bugs Bunny cartoons that will never see the light of day ever again. They are, let's say, 61-65 years old as of, let's also say, this last week. We can then say they were made for the kids at home during the war. What they feature is Bugs Bunny brutally killing Japanese soldiers while spewing non-stop racial slurs. There is a good reason why that one is gone forever.


Yeah. I've seen that one. My history teacher last year tracked it down online for WW2 studies. It was pretty bad. I do believe in getting rid of all type of racist things like that (at least from the public eye until they realize what and why they are seeing it. Not for entertainment. Seeing things/media from that time really does give you a good perspective.)


But anyways, aslong as the quality of the cartoon isn't given up (very obvious lapses in the cartoon) what do the kids care? I do belive in preserving copies of the original for future generations, why not take the extra precaution?
Image
Locked