HW Plot Part: Sophie's lab (Split #6)

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Casi · #136 Post by **Casi** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:18 pm

Cerise wrote:
Casi wrote:I find it odd that only one out of the three special mixtures has been found. Is it possible that you have to use that one to make the other two? I am going to give this a try. I just wanted to put my idea out there in case anyone else has already tried this.

It is kind of wild that theres been such a gap between discoveries. A big group of people have been testing combinations all night without hitting either of the unknowns, so it must've been crazy luck, or planned by TNT for Ice to have been found so soon. I dont know if anyones tried what youre saying, but if you do it, its not going to hurt. At least it'd be ruled out.

Well, I have 3 grams of the ice. Now I just need to find out what 7 grams to try with it. Page one of this split has 7 grams of sharpgrass with nothing done to it. Maybe 7 grams of something that has been worked on will work.

Alex · #137 Post by **Alex** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:20 pm

Jaya - I would, as much as it sucks to redo it :/

Valrigard - No. Nobody's found the remaining two. If you had, we would know

ravenangelpr · #138 Post by **ravenangelpr** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:38 pm

Ok, this is not much of a tip but something I did now after two consecutively black goo blow outs and lots of reading around and browsing, the +/- thing, in my case was 3 I required 67 Power, 103 Enchantment, suggestion don't go to the extremes, that is 70 or 64 and 106 or 100, with the rounding thing if you go off or over a decimal it will turn to a black goo. At least this is what I noticed of the other people that had this result with the ingredients "on the required amounts", they don't show you the decimals but the system IS measuring them.

It required me the +/- 3 so I just stayed in the +/- 2 side of the equation, same for spectral essence, aim for the required amount don't go +/- 1 because it will mess up the whole thing.

Hope that helps...

BTW...I got the Singularity...nooooo, couldn't get the one solved already...nooo too much to ask for... :battar:

*sighs* Well here goes the holiday weekend

psyco_chick32 · #139 Post by **psyco_chick32** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:52 pm

Grrr
*tries combination after combination after combination*

I'm running out of time!
Soon they'll actually need me to WORK! And then what will I do!?
Platinum Mist... why must you elude me!?
*headdesk*

Okay, I've started going through each of the combinations of 1 gram of 3 items, all burned and crushed... in the hopes that maybe it's really easy and we're just overlooking it.
(yes, I'm sure others have already done this before... but bear with me, I had to start doing something easy before my brain imploded)

thegreenside · #140 Post by **thegreenside** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:09 pm

From the neoboards

I was playing around with how to make Plasma Ice and found that you only really need to satisfy the following:

1. Have all 3 ingrediants
2. Have only 1g of Nova
3. Have any 2 positive and any 2 negative properties.

Eg Dessicating 8g Sharpgrass for 10 seconds and then adding 1g Nova and Bumroot will also give you a Plasma Ice Composite...

I tried it and it works. You just have to use bumroot, sharpgraas and nova essence and no other ones. Only 1g of nova and the double positive and negative properties. Also this petpage from th original poster:http://www.neopets.com/~Hydruxo has some more methods on getting the plasma composite quickly.

It seems to me a LOT of people have been waiting untill stuff is maxed out while it is not required.

#141 Post by **theonlysaneone** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:19 pm

psyco_chick32 wrote:Grrr
*tries combination after combination after combination*

I'm running out of time!
Soon they'll actually need me to WORK! And then what will I do!?
Platinum Mist... why must you elude me!?
*headdesk*

Okay, I've started going through each of the combinations of 1 gram of 3 items, all burned and crushed... in the hopes that maybe it's really easy and we're just overlooking it.
(yes, I'm sure others have already done this before... but bear with me, I had to start doing something easy before my brain imploded)

We had a nice board going on Neoboards about this for a while, and we eliminated burn/soak and burn/crush as the ways of getting it. If you want to double-check, go ahead, but there are 120 combinations, so it will take you a while.

Jaya · #142 Post by **Jaya** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:19 pm

And... black goo. Now, my Comp 3 was perfect, like it wanted exactly what I gave it, so something was wrong with the goo or the essence. Can anyone spot the problem?

Miscellaneous Composition

Quantity: 12 grams
Conjuring: +100
Divination: +67
Enchantment: +67
Power: -267

Spectral Essence

Quantity: 23 grams
Conjuring: +173
Divination: -1
Enchantment: +25
Power: +365

Anti-Gravitic Goo

Quantity: 10 grams
Conjuring: +304
Divination: +245
Enchantment: -282
Power: -340

Casi · #143 Post by **Casi** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:24 pm

thegreenside wrote:From the neoboards

I was playing around with how to make Plasma Ice and found that you only really need to satisfy the following:

1. Have all 3 ingrediants
2. Have only 1g of Nova
3. Have any 2 positive and any 2 negative properties.

Eg Dessicating 8g Sharpgrass for 10 seconds and then adding 1g Nova and Bumroot will also give you a Plasma Ice Composite...

I tried it and it works. You just have to use bumroot, sharpgraas and nova essence and no other ones. Only 1g of nova and the double positive and negative properties. Also this petpage from th original poster:http://www.neopets.com/~Hydruxo has some more methods on getting the plasma composite quickly.

It seems to me a LOT of people have been waiting untill stuff is maxed out while it is not required.

I made 3 grams of plasma ice. I just used one each of the three ingredients. This means we can add to plasma ice and I really think it is the base for the other two composites.

Jerch · #144 Post by **Jerch** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:28 pm

Casi wrote:
thegreenside wrote:From the neoboards

I was playing around with how to make Plasma Ice and found that you only really need to satisfy the following:

1. Have all 3 ingrediants
2. Have only 1g of Nova
3. Have any 2 positive and any 2 negative properties.

Eg Dessicating 8g Sharpgrass for 10 seconds and then adding 1g Nova and Bumroot will also give you a Plasma Ice Composite...

I tried it and it works. You just have to use bumroot, sharpgraas and nova essence and no other ones. Only 1g of nova and the double positive and negative properties. Also this petpage from th original poster:http://www.neopets.com/~Hydruxo has some more methods on getting the plasma composite quickly.

It seems to me a LOT of people have been waiting untill stuff is maxed out while it is not required.

I made 3 grams of plasma ice. I just used one each of the three ingredients. This means we can add to plasma ice and I really think it is the base for the other two composites.

yet that theory doesn't quite apply to the spectral essence and goo, perhaps each could have different parameters...but for the overdoing part, i completely agree ^.^

Alex · #145 Post by **Alex** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:37 pm

Jaya, your Spectral Essence is wrong. The values aren't correct.

21 g Bloodfern Loam - Crushed and Soaked to max
2 g Leafy Slorgblossom - Burned and Crushed to max

Sylence · #146 Post by **Sylence** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:47 pm

Quantity: 23 grams
Conjuring: +275
Divination: +53
Enchantment: +21
Power: +412

The formula is:

10 g Bloodfern - Soaked and Crushed MAX
10 g Bloodfern - Soaked and Crushed MAX
2 g Leafy Slorgblossom - Soaked, Crushed, and Desicatted MAX
1 g Bloodfern - Soaked, Crushed, and Desicatted MAX

is what I used for my Level 4 spectral essence. So if yer trying to get it to the 275 on the nose give this a try. When I had it at 276 my potion failed, 275 made it work!

stampsyne · #147 Post by **stampsyne** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:57 pm

If you do the math equation on that, it says 276 but is in fact 276.(something over 5) so is in fact over the +-1.

The above formula works great.

draconis · #148 Post by **draconis** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:00 pm

Sorry if it's already been said, but is it confirmed that for every 1g of stuff you do an action to, it takes 30s to Burn, 60 to Crush, 90 to Soak and 120s to Dessicate? And for 10g of ingredient, it'll take 10 x 30 (in the case of soaking) seconds?

Pardona · #149 Post by **Pardona** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:16 pm

Question: in the past, I've always used all different ingredients when it said 'Composite x cannot contain more than y grams of any one basic ingredient.'.

But now this page, which has been enormously helpful, by the way, brings forth something called 'Jurpleberry Method' - in which I would use 4*3 grams of Jurpleberries to make a composite of 12 grams which 'cannot contain more than 3 grams of any one basic ingredient'. Is this right? Does adding it one at a time make it ok? I mean, it still contains 12 grams of Jurpleberries, and I'd hate to see my AGG and SE go to waste.

Flipsyde · #150 Post by **Flipsyde** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:31 pm

Can someone help me out with Step Two? Does this all look right to you?

Composite #1:

Quantity: 19 grams
Relevant property: Divination
Target value: +43 +/- 5

Composite #2:

Quantity: 25 grams
Relevant property: Power
Target value: +90 +/- 5

Composite 2 cannot contain more than 10 grams of any one basic ingredient.
---------------------------------

Composite #1

Item used: Baguss Pulp

10g @ +43
9g @ +43

43+43= 86
86/2= 43 (Divination)

Composite #2

Items Used: Leafy Slorgblossom, Sharpgrass, Bumroot

10g @ 138
10g @ 78
5g @ 13

[(10*138) +(10*78) + (5*13)] / 25
[(1380) + (780) + (65)] / 25
[(2225)] / 25
= 89 (Power)

It looks right to me but isn't working when I throw the two components in.