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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:01 pm 
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I suppose they think there's some way that this can be considered "normal".

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theonlysaneone wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/judge-bans-further-reporting-on-story-of-13yearold-father-1625958.html
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“As a result of press intrusion, of which the court has received information, the private and family life of the mother and her baby has been disrupted to such an extent that the judge was concerned about the mother and baby being unable to live a normal family life.”
What's all this stuff about the mother's life being so disrupted? It was the boy who all the fuss was mainly about, what with him being the youngest. Also, is anyone getting in trouble for this? Alfie and Chantelle plus the three other claimants are all underaged.

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I'm not certain that anyone can be arrested for anything. Relations between a 13 and 15 year olds isn't illegal, just silly.

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Christopher wrote:
All this talk about 'broken' Britain is rubbish. NZ, Australia, the US every country in the world has examples of under 15s fathering children. And in any case, it's biological. When animals can reproduce, reproduce they do. I'm not saying that a 13-15 year old can make a decent parent (which sometimes they can), but this outrage at it being somehow inherantly wrong seems a little weird to me. The fact that people in western countries don't reproduce often until their 30s, and then complain of fertility problems seems just as weird. When humans became humans we were lucky to have a life expectancy of 30!

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Ta, Chris. I agree.

Also I find it perplexing that a lot of people are reacting like 'why aren't they out playing outside?' Maybe they can't remember their early teens, but when I was 13 there was a lot of this sort of thing (minus pregnancy, in most cases...) going on!

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Igg wrote:
Christopher wrote:
All this talk about 'broken' Britain is rubbish. NZ, Australia, the US every country in the world has examples of under 15s fathering children. And in any case, it's biological. When animals can reproduce, reproduce they do. I'm not saying that a 13-15 year old can make a decent parent (which sometimes they can), but this outrage at it being somehow inherantly wrong seems a little weird to me. The fact that people in western countries don't reproduce often until their 30s, and then complain of fertility problems seems just as weird. When humans became humans we were lucky to have a life expectancy of 30!

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Ta, Chris. I agree.

Also I find it perplexing that a lot of people are reacting like 'why aren't they out playing outside?' Maybe they can't remember their early teens, but when I was 13 there was a lot of this sort of thing (minus pregnancy, in most cases...) going on!
Not me. I was desperately unpopular with the ladeez.

Still am, in fact.

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I still say Jeremy Kyle should be sorting it out.

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shapu wrote:
Igg wrote:
Christopher wrote:
All this talk about 'broken' Britain is rubbish. NZ, Australia, the US every country in the world has examples of under 15s fathering children. And in any case, it's biological. When animals can reproduce, reproduce they do. I'm not saying that a 13-15 year old can make a decent parent (which sometimes they can), but this outrage at it being somehow inherantly wrong seems a little weird to me. The fact that people in western countries don't reproduce often until their 30s, and then complain of fertility problems seems just as weird. When humans became humans we were lucky to have a life expectancy of 30!

Also, stop trolling.
Ta, Chris. I agree.

Also I find it perplexing that a lot of people are reacting like 'why aren't they out playing outside?' Maybe they can't remember their early teens, but when I was 13 there was a lot of this sort of thing (minus pregnancy, in most cases...) going on!
Not me. I was desperately unpopular with the ladeez.

Still am, in fact.
As it goes, not me either- but even if people weren't doing it, it doesn't mean they weren't trying.

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Igg wrote:
shapu wrote:
Igg wrote:
Ta, Chris. I agree.

Also I find it perplexing that a lot of people are reacting like 'why aren't they out playing outside?' Maybe they can't remember their early teens, but when I was 13 there was a lot of this sort of thing (minus pregnancy, in most cases...) going on!
Not me. I was desperately unpopular with the ladeez.

Still am, in fact.
As it goes, not me either- but even if people weren't doing it, it doesn't mean they weren't trying.
That's... not good. Kids at my school were not having sex at the age of 13. Even at the age of 18 it's still uncommon.

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That's... not good. Kids at my school were not having sex at the age of 13. Even at the age of 18 it's still uncommon.
I live in a fairly rural area of England and back in my day there were a couple of girls doing it at 13. That's not to say it wasn't looked down on by other kids that age, though. Most of us thought they were right little slappers... :D

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As it goes, not me either- but even if people weren't doing it, it doesn't mean they weren't trying.
That's... not good. Kids at my school were not having sex at the age of 13. Even at the age of 18 it's still uncommon.[/quote]

They weren't that you know of . Or, well, I guess it partly depends on what kind of school you went to and how selective its intake was.

It is utterly naive to think that this doesn't happen; by that same token it's ridiculous when people suggest this makes the kids involved weird.

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Well I was loner back then and I still am. I just in the library the whole time. I never knew what went on in gossip at my old high school.

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Ski wrote:
I suppose they think there's some way that this can be considered "normal".
In America, yes.
I thought the British were better than this. XD

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DM was on fire! wrote:
Ski wrote:
I suppose they think there's some way that this can be considered "normal".
In America, yes.
I thought the British were better than this. XD
I would expect nothing less from the people who brought us Marmite.

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Quite a few students at my school have brought their babies to school at one time or another, so I can see the effects of teen sex firsthand. I hope this child has a relatively normal childhood and not hounded by the media all the time.

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Igg wrote:
theonlysaneone wrote:
Igg wrote:
As it goes, not me either- but even if people weren't doing it, it doesn't mean they weren't trying.
That's... not good. Kids at my school were not having sex at the age of 13. Even at the age of 18 it's still uncommon.
They weren't that you know of . Or, well, I guess it partly depends on what kind of school you went to and how selective its intake was.

It is utterly naive to think that this doesn't happen; by that same token it's ridiculous when people suggest this makes the kids involved weird.
I went to a public school (admittedly, one of the better public schools). I saw maybe one pregnant girl the entire time? This is not common behavior. Part of the problem is that way too many people think this sort of thing is okay.

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